User talk:KevinM

Welcome! Hello KevinM! Welcome to UESPWiki! It's always good to have new members. If you would like to help improve any of our pages, you may want to take a look at the following links: Policies and Guidelines: UESPWiki standards and expectations Help Contents: a list of in-depth Help pages Quick Editing Guide: a quick guide to wiki markup Getting Started: how you can help Uploading Images: Guidelines on image standardization If you would like to spice up your userpage, click here for a list of userboxes you can use, including a guide to making your own. When you're editing, it's always a good idea to leave edit summaries to explain the changes you have made to a particular page, and remember to sign your talk page posts with four tildes ~~~~. Also, the "show preview" button is a great way to view the changes you've made so far without actually saving the page (our patrollers really appreciate it!). Feel free to practice editing in the sandbox. If you would like to discuss the games or lore, consider checking out our blog, our Discord, or the forums. If you need any help, don't hesitate to contact one of our mentors. Lastly, thanks once again for joining the UESPWiki, and have fun! — Wolfborn(Howl) 06:04, 16 November 2023 (UTC) Multiple edits Hi Kevin, thanks for contributing to the discussion on the Community Portal. However, could you please take more care with editing and try to post comments in a single edit? Your three posts required 16 edits, which just clog up Recent Changes and the page history. Please make full use of the "Show Preview" button to avoid this. Thank you very much! --SerCenKing (talk) 13:56, 7 December 2023 (UTC) Advice Hello and welcome to UESPWiki! Thanks for your interest in the wiki; however, you seem to have been making multiple edits to a page by not using the show preview button, clogging up the Recent Changes in the process. We appreciate your enthusiasm, but keep in mind that each edit needs to be patrolled, so multiple consecutive edits create an unnecessary hassle on those who patrol. So please utilize this feature! You may also want to look over our style guide and Getting Started guide. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. AKB Talk Cont Mail 19:02, 10 May 2024 (UTC) I would just like to add that this applies to userspace edits as well. For example, you have edited your user page 131 times in the last two weeks. For that page specifically, I recommend saving your work locally for a while to see if you want to change anything else. I understand the feeling that your user page is an easy page to nitpick constantly! —Dillonn241 (talk) 04:15, 11 May 2024 (UTC) Hat Notes Hey! I've noticed you adding hat notes (those "This page is about X, for the person in Y, see Z" notes). Per the guidelines on hatnotes, they should only be added if there is a reasonable assumption that a user is going to accidentally end up on a page and not realize by the name alone that it isn't the same as the other, similar page. For example, If someone is named Bob and another NPC is named Bob Goodperson, the page at Bob would get a hat note, since both NPCs could be referred to as just Bob in dialogue. But the page of Bob Goodperson wouldn't need a hat note, since the main Bob is never ever referred to with that last name, so anyone landing at Bob Goodperson isn't likely to think it's the same as just Bob. Most of the pages you added Hatnotes to don't really need those notes. Two NPCs that share a first name but not a last name don't need hatnotes. There are MANY of these, and we don't need to add hatnotes to them all. Jeancey (talk) 18:59, 15 May 2024 (UTC) Messaging Admins Hey KevinM, I was ging to respond to your message on my talk page, but then I saw you messaged several admins with the same question. It's always fine to ask a question to an admin if you want some help with editing or another topic. However, admins are usually only asked to interfere in discussions if there is a conflict. Wiki policies are built by consensus of the community, not the whims of an admin. Our voice should have the same weight as any other user with good arguments, it's just that the community did put their trust in us to handle more sensitive tools on the wiki. Don't see this as a warning, you didn't intend to selectively message outside parties to sway the discussion to your side, so I no harm done. --Ilaro (talk) 09:45, 16 May 2024 (UTC) Removing TOCs On what basis have we decided to remove TOCs from Lore articles? Some pages, such as Lore:Hammerfell, are way too long to not have a Contents list. --Enodoc (talk) 20:27, 20 May 2024 (UTC) Editing Tips Hi Kevin! You've really been doing a great job with your edits lately and I'd like to thank you for it. I do have a couple of suggestions, though, just to make it easier on the patrollers and admins who review and approve people's edits. First, we ask everyone to put an edit summary on every edit, even if it seems fairly obvious what you've done. It helps explain why you made the edit in case there's any question about it, and flags to the patroller what they should be looking for. It can be as short as a simple abbreviation (i.e., "sp" for spelling) for those times where it's a really minor change, or it can be a sentence or two, if needed. There's a setting under "Gadgets" in your preferences that'll remind you to add one if you forget. I have that enabled myself and it's reminded me to add a summary no small number of times. Second, it really helps if you combine edits as much as possible. There are times where it's better not to, to be sure, and there are times you hit Save only to then realize you made a mistake <carefully avoids looking in the mirror>, but generally speaking, if a lot of edits are thematically the same, it helps everyone, not just the patrollers, if you can group them together. So, you can do copyediting for the entire page all at once, for example, rather than one or two at a time. If you need to see what something looks like in the interim, there's the "Show Preview" button, or if you want to save as you go, you can copy the text to a sandbox page in your own user space and edit it there to avoid making a lot of edits to the original page. Thanks again for everything you've been doing, and keep up the good work! – Robin Hood (talk) 16:54, 27 May 2024 (UTC) Some advice You're doing a lot of work and that's commendable, however you have a bad habit of making sweeping changes based on the standards of individual pages while not understanding the nuances. For example not every page needs to follow the same image labeling standards and concept art images don't need to apply to the parenthetical game clarification. You're also changing image descriptions without fully knowing the context of where the image was from. Another example is some of the major race pages having an "Appearance" section, pages mainly section galleries when there is a large amount of images at play, if a gallery only have like five images it really isn't necessary. Again you've done a lot of good work, but you seem to see the need to fill needs where it isnt necessary in some cases. Another thing you should know is not every character is eligible for a Lore article, I agree with all the ones you've made ones for, but you're really pushing it with some in terms of lack of notability. Anyways I hope I cleared some things up. Thank you.Tarponpet (talk) 04:58, 29 May 2024 (UTC)